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This is Telemetry News Now, a biweekly tech news podcast hosted by Leon Adato, Justin Ryburn, and yours truly, Philip Gervasi.
Here we are ending the summer season, inching ever so closely to fall two thousand twenty four here in the northeast where I live, we have already abandoned all vestiges of, summertime fun and pools and floaty toys and have embraced with both arms cozy sweaters and pumpkin spice lattes. Pumpkin spice everything if I'm gonna be honest. So without further ado, let's get into the headlines for this week. So gentlemen, thanks for being with me. I'd like to start off with a big one in the service provider space, something near and dear to our heart here at Kentik, Verizon, to acquire Frontier Communications.
So according to Reuters, Verizon said on, what, two Thursdays ago, it would buy Frontier Communications in an all cash deal valued at twenty billion dollars with a b as the US wireless carrier looks to boost its fiber network.
Shares of Frontier Communications fell, two weeks ago for about nine percent in premarket trading, and Verizon climbed about one percent. So So the acquisition is expected to close in about eighteen months with pundits and talking heads getting into the fray right now, talking about how this is gonna help Verizon better compete against AT and T and, how it's gonna span multiple states beyond the Midwest, Texas, California, and others. So, gentlemen, let's just start with that one. And, I know especially for me in the northeast region, frontier is sort of a a dirty word.
Yeah. I so it's it's nice to see providers expanding their their footprint, expanding their capability. Although the thing that I keep coming back to because I surf the the local, ISP speed rates and and dollar rates often. I have no problem switching out from one to another.
And the reality is that for folks who are in the Verizon service area or the, you know, the, frontier for so for service area okay. Fine. But it's city by city. Like, if you are in an AT and T city, you are not getting Verizon and vice versa.
So it's nice, but most cities are already locked in barring some sort of, you know, major shakeup.
So, like, okay. Good for them, I guess, or if you have stock.
Yeah. I mean, if you look at the map that we'll we can link in the article in the show notes, there's not a lot of overlap.
You know, they have blue for the frontier areas and red for the Verizon areas.
Frontier's gonna bring two point two million subscribers to the table. Verizon's Fios has about looks like about seven and a half million, seven point four million today. But to Leon's point, they're in different cities. They're in different parts of the country. So it really is, you know, the new Verizon going forward. They're basically picking up additional markets in a different in additional, customers where they don't they really don't have any overlap. So there's not really a loss of of competitors in the market here, which I think is, you know, part of the reason this is likely gonna make it through the regulators.
Yeah. Yeah. I have a statement here from the CEO of Verizon, Hans Vesper. The acquisition of Frontier is a strategic fit. It will be on Verizon's two decades of leadership, and it is an opportunity to become more competitive in more markets throughout the United States. So, yeah, I hear what you're saying, Leon. So not necessarily competing with AT and T toe to toe in a particular city or, metro area, but certainly expanding its footprint on a large geographic scale across the entire country altogether.
So moving on, big news in the, political global political and AI space, if there is such a thing. I guess there is now. The US, UK, and EU sign on to the Council of Europe's high level AI safety treaty. We have some, information here from capacity media tech crunch, Reuters, and a variety of blog posts out there. So, ultimately, we are looking at the first legally binding international AI treaty, whatever that is, signed last week by several countries, not all of them in the, the the committee consortium just yet, but several that negotiated it, including European Union members, the United States, Britain, Andorra, Iceland, so, within Europe and then, and outside of Europe.
Ultimately, this, was spawned by, an organization called the AI Convention, been in the works for years, and then adopted just this past May after discussion among those fifty seven countries. Ultimately, addressing the risks of AI, the risks that AI may pose, and then promoting responsible innovation. I don't know about you gentlemen, but this could be, a series of podcasts to unpack unto itself.
A series of ongoing podcasts.
Yeah. Good point. Right. Yeah. Yep. I I'm gonna just simply inject that, aside from any other news source, her royal highness Taylor Swift also, weighed in on this this week as part of her endorsement for one particular political party and said that she had deep con concerns about AI, deepfakes, and things like that, which is why she took a public stance. And that's really all I need to know.
And that's all you need to know.
That's that's honestly okay. So I I really think that this is a long time coming. It's long overdue already.
I don't think that throwing more government at something is gonna make it better, but, I am also scarred, old, and skeptical enough to know from experience that letting vendors run amok really, honestly, and and no hyperbole here gets people hurt.
So, yes, I'm I'm all for this.
This may be one of the few things AI related I agree with Leon on. I I think that, you know, this is one of the main problems or one of the main concerns people have with using AI. Right? It's how do we use it safely? How do we use it appropriately? How do we keep the deep fakes from, you know, making their way out onto the Internet?
So, yeah, I agree. I'm not usually a big proponent of having government agencies who may not fully understand the technology bring regulation to the table because they tend to not necessarily do it right because they don't fully understand the technology that they're building policy around. But I think something needs to be something's better than nothing. Right? And so getting, opinions, getting people together to talk about how do we implement AI safely, how do we put some guardrails around it earlier in the process, because we're still early days on AI, let's be honest, I think is the is the right move here. I think, you know, if we had gotten some policy around the Internet earlier on, maybe some of the things we still deal with today wouldn't be nearly as big a problems.
But I think we'll we'll find out.
I mean, I get it. I I agree with with you with both of you about the idea of keeping people safe, keeping information safe and accurate and free and and also open, you know, the, the entire underlying premise that the access to, information and accurate information is very important to, a thriving, healthy society and culture. All of that I get, but when you use the word guardrails and and, the idea of government policy and governments in general just kind of, overseeing all of this for us on our behalf does make me a little bit concerned. I mean, who gets to determine what those guardrails are?
What are what does guardrail even mean? What does that mean when we're talking about algorithms and and and, you know, built into generative AI models that develop text and video and audio? So, yeah, sure. I wanna make sure that that stuff is they're not deep fakes that adversely affect me or my family or my my community.
But at the same time, there is a significant amount of complexity in that because we are talking about weights and biases and think about how transformer models work. I mean, this is this is very technical in nature, and now we're gonna have a government kind of put guardrails on how all of that's gonna operate and therefore what kind of content it generates.
So as an aside, well, actually not really as an aside, but very much related, The Council of Europe secretary general, Maria Petrinovic Buric said, we must ensure, quote, we must ensure that the rise of AI upholds our standards rather than undermining them. The framework convention is designed to ensure just that. It is a strong and balanced text, referring to the to the treaty, the result of the open and inclusive approach by which it was drafted and which it and which ensured that it benefits from multiple and expert perspectives.
The framework convention is an open treaty with a potentially global reach. I hope that these will be the first of many signatures and that they will be followed quickly by ratifications so that the treaty can enter into force as soon as possible. There's a lot of heavy words there. Expert perspectives, and then, of course, at the end, you know, enter into force. Does that mean that there's some sort of accountability system? Multinational, international accountability system? So if my model doesn't produce the things that these folks say it should produce, I am gonna have to pay some sort of consequence.
So, yeah. You know, I I'm with you guys but I am also, somewhat maybe in a healthy way. I don't know. Skeptical.
Well and I think that's been one of the challenges with policy on the Internet generally, right, is how do you enforce it across Internet boundary or, sorry, international boundaries. Right? I mean, the Internet is a global thing. AI is gonna be a global thing.
So you've gotta get these multinational US, EU, UK organizations to come together and sign almost like a treaty to say, yes. We're going to agree to work together and to put some some meat behind some penalties if people are in violation of some of these things. I mean, it's it's worked for GDPR. It's the only good analogy I have, I think, for this.
I was just gonna bring that up. I was gonna say that that the the EU did not do a bad job on GDPR. It's not perfect. Nothing is.
But they they didn't do a bad job. And I think that what we're seeing, if we take a step back from this AI issue, is that international organizations are learning how to craft you wanna say regulations, you wanna say guidelines, whatever whatever word you wanna use for it, they are learning how to do this with regard to the Internet. And AI is a critical need, and so they're gonna they're gonna do it. And, hopefully, they'll have a good first shot. It's not gonna be perfect, but, hopefully, it's iterative.
I also like the quote I read from, it's UK's lord chancellor, and I'm an American, so I don't know what that means in terms of rank. But the UK's lord chancellor, Shabana Mahmoud, and he basically said, that we must shape AI. We cannot let AI shape us. And I think that as a guiding principle is not a bad thing as a core value.
Whether or not, again, the first iteration or the second iteration ends up being perfect, I I think it's still very necessary and worth trying.
And I just realized I did a quick Google search. I misgendered miss Mahmoud.
Shabana is, not a he, so I apologize that, again, just exposing my extreme American isms and not knowing public figures in the UK.
I mean, you make an interesting point. Your perspective is that this is an iterative process, and that makes a lot of sense. I mean, we are trying to figure this out as we go for sure.
And I, you know, I don't really think that it's a one or the other scenario. Like, you know, is AI gonna control us or are we gonna control it? Just like does art inform, our humanity or does humanity inform art and that entire paradigm?
So I do think that there is some more complexity and nuance to it. And, and, you you know, I think we should be paying attention to the entire digital rights thing, which is something that pops up on this well, not this, but the main, podcast, Telemetry Now, quite a bit. I just read some literature from the Center for AI and Digital Privacy that's looking at this stuff, and it looks at this treaty very much in the context of digital rights and human rights and and what role AI will play in all of that. So really interesting that it's both from a technical perspective, how we can keep things safe, but also how AI will play a role in the advancement of digital and, for some, human rights.
Yeah. And I think it's gonna be very important for any of these regulators to stay up on the latest developments like what the next article talks about. Right? As far as, like, pre trained AI workflows. Like, there's a lot of technology that's changing and evolving. And if they're gonna build policy around AI, they're gonna have to keep up to date on the latest trends and what's coming up.
Yeah. It's an interesting point that you make, Justin, because I was looking at, Ollama the other day and installing that on my laptop. And then, like, by the time it was done because it's, like, twenty gigabytes. Right?
By the time I'm done installing it, I look back at, like, the their their home page, and I'm like, oh, a new update? Like, in the time I was installing the thing and downloading it, I mean, I got a three hundred meg pipe at home, which is not tiny, but, you know, it it took a while. Right? It literally there was an update.
So, like, how are regulators gonna keep up pace with the, the pace of tech technological advancement in this, in this, in this area right now? So so moving on, we have some, really interesting news from the realm of fiber optics and submarine telecom cables or what we assume eventually will lead to submarine telecom cables, Ciena and Aurelion achieved one point six terabits per second optical transmission milestone. And for anyone in networking, we all love more bandwidth. Ciena's Wavelet six extreme w l six e, better known as, is the optical networking technology that enabled this new speed, in carrier data network transport specifically.
So we're looking at the world's first one point six terabits per second wavelength data transmission in a in a live network trial. This is not something that's on paper. This is a trial that took place, on Aurelion's network specifically between, two points of presence, cable landing stations, one in Ashburn, Virginia, an Equinix facility, I believe, and then Virginia Beach cable landing station. So, pretty cool.
I can only imagine, the improvements that we're gonna be able to see once this trickles out into, industry.
Yeah. I think this one's gonna be really fascinating. I mean, presumably, since they're connecting to a cable landing station, the next step is to upgrade the capacity on the undersea cable, that lands that undersea cable landing station. Right?
So that you know, if you think about it, if they're doing eight hundred meg per wavelength on that fiber optic today, they can upgrade to one point six that doubles the speed without them having to invest in any infrastructure for that undersea cable, which we know from, you know, having other guests on the main show that that's an expensive proposition, very time consuming. So I think there's gonna be, you know, really interesting to see where this goes. I also can't wait to see this inside of a data center. Right?
I know all three of us have done a lot of researching on networking and AI environments and the interconnection of GPUs inside of a data center. And this is one of the big things that people have been waiting on in in those environments is to be able to upgrade each individual link from eight hundred meg to, one point six terabits. So I think it'll be interesting to see as it starts to come to fruition on Ethernet switches inside of a data center to see these kind of speeds will be really exciting.
Yeah. The the things you've already talked about it, but the thing that jumped out at me when I was reading the article was it was a live field trial using existing network, and, and they're they're willing to say out loud that they're looking for deployment q four of this year, or q one of twenty twenty five. Like, those those are bold statements, and, it it's very heartening. And and just for context, for those people who don't know, my youngest is, and my youngest son is an engineering student. So I am flooded on a near constant basis from him with all the articles that he is excited about from cold fusion and high capacity batteries to transporting people through pneumatic tubes, and I wish I was making that up. But, yes, that was a thing that we discussed the other night is putting people in a pneumatic tube and could we transport them that way because he's an engineering student student and, reality is often optional.
So my point is that I see a lot of stuff that's just purely theoretical. That's a paper or an idea or whatever. So it was really nice to see this very ambitious, very significant scientific jump that was real.
Mhmm. Mhmm.
Yeah. Yeah. What you said reminded me of Futurama. Remember how they kinda get around the city?
I I was thinking of Star Trek beam me up, Scotty. That. Star Trek? Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, again, beam me up is a whole other thing, but he really put people into a pneumatic tube and then push them in a way that will not kill him.
So Yeah.
Yeah. Some some sort of pot or something.
So, yeah, this is this is really great news though for, I mean, just the backbone of the Internet. And, ultimately, what we're talking about is carrier networks and backhaul networks.
And so this is just gonna enable those huge data transfers for tier one service providers, for, you know, the cloud providers that are moving traffic over, submarine cables. Because generally speaking, we're not sending traffic over submarine cables. That's gonna go to some local pop. And, you know, and and the technology that it's enabling this, the, the transmitters, receivers, and all that stuff, that's that's in house development at Ciena. And so that that's not out there in industry yet. So there is gonna be a delay here.
But in the near term, you know, I I do think that we're gonna see this deployed more or less, in maybe those cable spurs that are much shorter in length. And then in short short haul cables that are, that are lighting up very high demand areas. Remember that these are these are very, very expensive if we're deploying new submarine cables altogether with the the the ecological and topographical surveys and all the lawyers involved and then, of course, the cost of the cable and the deployment, all of that. And and the fact that cables are often deployed in multiples for fault tolerance and redundancy. So I do I do think we're gonna see it first in those short haul and at cable spurs and that kind of thing, high demand areas.
And then as far as trickling out to the data center, you know, I don't know. That that's, certainly we're starting to see those very, very high bandwidth, links in the data center already with, how we're networking for Yes.
For AI workloads.
Right. I the other point that isn't made in any of the articles, but I think is worth mentioning every time there's this speed jump is we always think about, like, what if I had you know, what if I replaced every piece of cable with this faster thing? But also it allows you to reduce your cable density. You know, that now I can get the same amount of data moving on a smaller number of wires. You know? Yeah.
And and that has a real impact on climate and ecology because you can if you can reduce cable density, it reduces heat. I mean, that is a very real thing when people talk about the way that you stack cables together because eventually you have this massive, you know, pipeline of cable that is generating so much heat, it begins to melt the cables themselves.
So reducing cable density reduces heat, which reduces your need for cooling, which reduces the overall energy consumption, and that is not something to to overlook. It's obviously not the thing that Philip, you and I are thinking of. We're thinking of, I want this in my house.
Yeah. Right.
But and I think there's a lot of folks. And and, Justin, to your point, like, oh, how would this impact AI? How do I just move more data faster? But there's also the reduction aspect that I think is worth keeping an eye on as this article moves as as this technology moves forward and as we continue to track it in the news.
Well, that's also one of the challenges that they have in AI data centers. Right? It's power and cooling density, you know, when you get in those dense environments too. So making things more efficient, maybe we'll get twice as much bandwidth on the same, you know, link, whether we're talking fiber or copper, is part of the you know, what's exciting to this to me.
Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. And and and that is something that is a concern in the data center for sure, power and cooling, especially for bespoke data centers designed and built for AI workloads.
But I think it is important to remember that this is not like a blip in, humanity's existence that we have this thing called the Internet that's gonna die out next year. Maybe it will one day, but, the exponential growth in the data being transferred, especially in recent days, is such that I don't think that we're gonna deploy one point six terabits per second links. First of all, we don't deploy deploy things like that in the submarine cable world, as single cables. They are deployed in multiple for redundancy.
So there's that. And and the fact that we're gonna consume it. We're gonna consume it very quickly. Think about how, generative AI models and general AI models are now becoming more ubiquitous in that data is being ingested back in from the world into these models.
So they're not just reaching out and looking at the Internet, but there's this kind of reverse CDN thing going where instead of, like, a streaming provider sending out to all the individual pops and then to individual homes in order to reduce latency and improve performance and doing that in a distributed fashion, imagine that in the reverse of all the telemetry from all the devices in your house and all this stuff, all the data going back then feeding into, you know, through your local communities, CO down the street into local pop across, secondary providers and primary tier one providers back to, the web scale AI companies.
This is a tremendous amount of bandwidth. I only force I foresee this only increasing more and more. One point six terabits per second is awesome and I do foresee that becoming much much more, in the near future. That is not, that is not gonna slow down. I think it's just gonna be a major focus of research for folks that only need more bandwidth.
So, alright. So let's move let's move on. This, this is near and dear to our heart here at Kentik. White House brands BGP routing a national security concern as it unveils reform road map.
So it's not that, we are glad that, BGP is a national security concern, but we are, very happy to to say that the White House actually cited and referred to, our very own Doug Madory's article and research and analysis in as an expert opinion in their own development of policy, shall we say, moving forward with securing the, the Internet itself.
So according to a White House fact sheet, BGP's original design properties do not adequately address the threat to and resilience toward requirements of today's Internet ecosystem.
Therefore, the potential for widespread disruption of Internet infrastructure, whether carried out accidentally or maliciously, is a national security concern.
It's interesting stuff. You know, I've seen so many articles from from Doug specifically and then from others within our company and others and and, that we work with, about this very thing that BGP is built largely on trust, and, that can open up attack vectors, malicious actors that wanna do bad things, but also just misconfigurations. And and so having a system in place to secure that, I think the White House finally sees that as an important thing considering the Internet is not just a thing for email and cat pictures or cat videos now because we have high bandwidth. But it is literally like a mechanism, a substrate for people to access information, you know, IE democracy, and for, you know, the sharing of information, the advancement of technology, culture, all of these things. So it's really interesting stuff that we're, we're seeing that finally from the highest levels of government.
Well, and in twenty twenty four, we have a lot of our critical infrastructure connected to the Internet. Right?
Power Yeah. That too.
You know, all kinds of stuff. So there's, you know, there is a very real national security angle to the Internet in general. Right? And and having it be resilient, like you said, is, you know, BGP is not working.
The Internet is not working effectively. Right? I mean, that's just the way the way it works. Right?
Right. I I like the fact that, BGP being a national security concern matches my BGP, is a will I pass the CCNA concern of mine personally.
So, like, I'm glad that that national interests match up with my personal interests for once.
One thing that jumped out of out at me in this article that we were looking at was, they said that BGP is, quote, infamously prone to configuration errors, unquote, which seems like once again a Leon can't pass the CCNA problem, not a protocol error per se. I mean, like, you know, things are complicated sometimes. Sometimes they're they're difficult. Sometimes it requires somebody with some skill to do. Yeah.
That did that by itself didn't seem like, oh, we need to address this or have a this goes back to what we were saying earlier about throwing more government at something doesn't always make it better. Like, I don't know that this is a reason to get government involved. However, the other thing that jumped out at me was, this idea of hurry up and implement. The full quote is, ONCD wants federal agencies and network operators to hurry up and implement, and they go on, but what they're talking about is RPKI.
Implement this this thing. And what's interesting to me is that in the blog article that was cited, which came from May of twenty twenty four, that blog article was specifically because a majority of I p v four routes were covered by RPKI already. Now I have to admit, a majority means fifty point zero eight percent. It was a bare just barely over the line, a majority.
But here in twenty twenty four, half of the routes are already protected by RPKI. So this hurry up, like, we're halfway there. When did you want it? And as far back as two years ago, Doug's analysis showed that, yes, you're right.
Only a third of the BGP routes had ROA, but the traffic, which is really what we care about. Right? Like, we don't really care about how many routes. We care about the traffic.
At that point, two years ago, fifty six and a half percent of the traffic had ROA.
Uh-huh.
So we're not that far behind. I mean, like, yes, important to do, but this is not, like, you know, here on fire. Oh my gosh. Grab the cat. We gotta get out of the house kind of emergencies.
Yeah. Play devil's advocate, though. Like, you know, it's great if fifty six percent of the traffic is covered. But if the traffic you care about, your, you know, particular connectivity to, you know, your bank to do your online banking or whatever is down, doesn't it's not much consolation that, you know, fifty six percent of it is covered.
Right? And I think that's kind of the point here is, like, anything less than, you know, ninety nine point nine percent, you know, five nines, whatever, is still a problem. And I think that's what the White House is trying to get out here is we to encourage everybody to adopt ROA, to sign your prefixes, to do RPKI strict test, you know, checking before injecting those routes into your routing table. I mean, Doug's Doug and others' research has proved that it it's it's safe.
I mean, you know, we can safely do this. Roa does work, you know, and and everybody should should start doing it.
And if the point was, we should have been there by now.
Like, come on, people. And and it's just gonna require a governmental kick in the butt. Okay. Cool.
I can take it.
And it isn't just the implementation of, route, origin authorizations, ROAs, but also the validation. That's they're different, and they're very important. They're different entities. If you're not familiar with RPKI, resource public key infrastructure, very important in securing, BGP updates and basically, like, kind of validating, ultimately authorizing, and then validating, is this prefix something that I should be installing into my route table? Is this something I can trust? And there's a whole series of of steps that happens for that to happen, for that to occur.
And and ultimately, that along with other mechanisms, that's the one that's called out here by the White House, but there are also other mechanisms as you all know in the the onion of security that can help to mitigate the adverse effects of malicious actors and misconfigurations with BGP and anything else on the Internet, for that matter. But it is important that there are multiple components here. There is a step, multiple steps of adoption. I I think I disagree with you on one point, though, Justin. I don't think we need ninety nine point nine nine nine five nines adoption for it to be really, really effective.
Because if the biggest like, the tier one service providers and, like, the biggest CDNs and cloud providers, if they're all they've they have all adopted RPKI, which by the way is kind of the impetus here. The White House is, through whatever organizations here, that they're working with. They're looking at getting the larger ISPs to adopt RPKI, which most of them already kinda do. And when you do that, what happens is, you know, oh, okay. So I wanna I wanna set up a pure relationship with, with AWS or with Cogent or whoever or, you know, a smaller ISP with a larger ISP.
Ultimately, at some point upstream, you you sort of need to be, you need to be using RPKI if you wanna be on the Internet.
So, no, that's not like a blanket statement where therefore all you you have to and or and you can't get on. But at some point, if you are, inter operating with one of those larger providers, whether it be a content delivery network, you know, the cloud provider, large ISP, something like that.
We're seeing it now. You know, I know just in we're having, talked to Doug about this a few times. It's amazing how many times Doug's name has come up in this particular segment.
He, you know, he's seeing, like, large organizations like a big health care system. I when I say health care system, picture like a hospital system with, like, fifteen hospitals and fifty thousand employees. You know?
If you have a presence on the Internet, it's something you should consider. So, certainly, the the the trickle down to enterprise, large enterprise, and then whatever you wanna define medium size enterprise as is, is certainly starting to happen. But I but I again, I don't think that we need to have five nines of adoption for it to be a real significant improvement. I you know, I I'm sure you agree with that though, Justin.
I mean, it's it's a really I don't know that you need five nines of all the ASNs on the Internet to Exactly.
Strict, in order to be able to get there. To your point though, if we had a hundred percent of the tier one carriers that were doing strict checking, we'd get to ninety nine percent of the prefixes or ninety nine percent of the traffic.
Exactly. Exactly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.
So Just one other thing before we move off from from this topic that I think you hit on, but it's worth double clicking on is, or this whole conversation has been about route authorization.
Right? R o ROA, route Yeah.
Origin We have the ROA. But remember, for the audience's sake, but there was also the ROV, the route origin, validation.
And, that is, I mean, just as, if not more important, because the, the authorization is what we use to, prove to the world that we are that we own these prefixes and that we should and are able to, advertise them. And the validation is the process of actually validating that's true when we see, BGP update messages. So it is overall part of the entire RPKI, though.
So keep in mind that that's really what we're talking about is RPKI, not necessarily one of the comp That is only going to fix who is originating the route in the table.
Right. It is not going to do anything to help with the path.
So if there's a hijack halfway in the path, it's not going to fix that.
So lest we make it sound like this is PFM and is gonna fix all of our BGP problems on the Internet, there are still additional problems that as an industry, we're gonna have to continue to work on even once, ROA is completely rolled out.
Yeah. Great point. And so for those of you that are interested in learning more about RPKI, we have several podcasts and about eight hundred and seventy five blogs written about RPKI and various aspects regarding RPKI RPKI as well. Because as Justin said, it is not like an encryption method. It is a is it a it's a method for, securing, BGB update messages, not securing, but, like, do I trust this, sender of this particular prefix, and can I install it into my routing table? So, so so moving on moving on to the cloud world, Oracle expands multi cloud capabilities with AWS, Google, and Microsoft, Microsoft Azure.
So Oracle is collaborating with Amazon, Google, and Microsoft to help their customers accelerate their application migrations and modernizations.
So OCI, Oracle Cloud Infrastructure deployed in AWS, Google, and Microsoft data centers respectively, and that satisfies, like, the idea here is that it satisfies this increasing demand for Oracle database services running on OCI, so that Oracle will work with AWS, Google, and and Azure, and then, you know, expand their availability.
Yeah. You know, it's Oracle's strategy around OCI has always been a little interesting to me, and it it kinda comes back in summary that I think is best on this is, like, Oracle is the best for running Oracle databases.
Right?
And it's really actually not that much different than when Azure first launched, and it was basically Microsoft is the best place to run your Windows and your active directory and, you know, OS three sixty five Exchange on. Right? So you think about it from that perspective, from Oracle's perspective. If I'm gonna migrate a database from my on prem data center to Oracle, how do I get how do I get connectivity to that? And they they they have the ability to run compute, obviously, in OCI, but they've taken a strategy of let's get good connectivity to the other three major public cloud providers so that if you're running your application front end in another cloud provider and the database calls are coming back to Oracle database, the latency is low. The the performance is high between those two, public cloud environments. That's what this announcement seems to to, support as they're continuing along that strategy.
Yeah. I so I'm I'm working really, really hard because I am not Corey Quinn. I'm working really hard not to, like, bash on certain public individuals who may or may not ask for it on a regular basis because of ego.
I'm I'm trying really hard. You can tell I I'm almost not doing it. But, there has been a push for a really long time to from every cloud provider to make their their cloud the the one true cloud, the one and only true cloud, the one cloud to bring them all in in the darkness behind them. And it's nice to see that Oracle is no longer pushing that.
At the same time, I think the very real concern is what Oracle is enabling is you to move more data east west, which is the stuff you pay for. So Yeah. Now they've made that e you know, I I took a look, and they've made that egress ingress cheap, not free, but relatively cheap, certainly cheaper than other cloud providers.
Again, I'm I'm not naming names, who refuse to bend on the egress ingress egress cost. So I guess my one thing would be a caution to everyone reading this article or considering implementing it is that you still need to be incredibly aware of the data that you're sending out from a particular cloud and bringing in from a particular cloud. If you are doing a select star from and bringing that data in, you are going to, it that may be a resume generating event for you a month from now when you have to pay, you know, pay your cloud bill.
So just be careful is the one thing I would say. But at the same time, it's nice to see that, some things can win out over ego, and and one of those things appears to appears to be shareholder value.
Yep. Right. Right.
Alright. Well, wrapping it up, I'd like to, finish out today's episode by going through some upcoming events in the next few weeks or so that are important to the three of us. So starting off, just in a couple weeks on September twenty sixth is the Kansas, City Networking user group, event hosted or put on by the USNUA parent organization. That's in Overland Park. I'll be actually there myself speaking. And, then we have SRE day in London, on September nineteen and twenty, where we'll have our own Leon speaking. His presentation, this this I would say it's an infamous presentation called alerts don't suck.
Yeah. Alerts don't suck. Your alerts suck.
Exactly. Thank you for the clarification. Yep.
I, I'm starting to see some new events coming out of the tech field day group. So, AI data infrastructure field day one, up to October second and third out in Silicon Valley. I say out end because I'm on the East Coast. I'm just gonna read off the, description because this is a new event. Tech Field Day is hosting a AI field day five in September and our first ever AI data infrastructure field day in October. What's the difference? AI Field Day is focused on building and running AI applications in the enterprise, including training and inferencing hardware and software.
AI data infrastructure supports the AI pipeline with storage and data management technology. So interesting stuff. Check them out at tech field day dot com forward slash event forward slash a I d.
Just go to tech field day dot com and look for AI. Yeah. And look for AI to field day one.
That one's really interesting to me, Phil, because if if folks haven't checked out one of the Tech Field Day events, they do a really nice job of getting delegates to kinda keep the marketing BS to a minimum in these things, which is real. So there's been plenty of AI marketing BS over the last few years. So I'm really excited to see Tech Field Day, you know, separate the signal from the noise when it comes to what's real and what's market texture, around AI. So I'm I'm kinda interested to check that one out myself.
Yeah. Absolutely. Looking forward to the livestream.
And next, of course, we have probably the most important event of the season, perhaps of our lifetime, is the, Upstate New York networking user group in Saratoga Springs on October third.
Who's hosting that? Who's running that event, Phil?
Oh, that would be yours truly. That is I live in the capital region of New York in Saratoga Springs. It's a it's about half an hour from me, and right in downtown Saratoga off Broadway. We have an awesome, venue, and, we, I'm actually not just hosting it.
I'm I am speaking at this one, because there was a special request for one of the presentations that I give when I'm out in the road, so I'll be doing that. But that is on October third if you happen to be in the Capital Region area of New York or the northeast in general and you wanna drive over. Last but not least, we do have AutoCon two, an event sponsored put on by the network automation forum, November eighteenth through twenty two in Denver, Colorado. That's more than a month out, a little bit more than a few weeks that I said, but I wanted to mention it here because workshops are filling up very fast.
Early bird conference pricing ends in a couple weeks as well. So visit, the network automation forum website. Register before all of that is sold out. So thanks so much for listening to the news today.
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